http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/things-people-said/
Things People Said
“The rating agencies are just lying in wait to see who they can downgrade to make up for their past mistakes.”
“If you see what some of the banks are now running in their war rooms, it’s really, really scary.”
“If you see what some of the banks are now running in their war rooms, it’s really, really scary.”
“The Minsky moment for banking has arrived.”
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Jerome Poynton
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Taliban Leader in Peace Talks Was an Impostor
“Taliban Leader in Peace Talks Was an Impostor - http://nyti.ms/hHEi4I - A bad day in the office for that case officer. #hugebrassballs”“It’s not him,” said a Western diplomat in Kabul intimately involved in the discussions. “And we gave him a lot of money.”I can think of no better reason to play the impostor."Sayed Amir Muhammad Agha, a onetime Taliban commander who says he has left the Taliban but who acted as a go-between with the movement in the past, said in an interview that he did not know the tale of the impostor.
But he said the Taliban leadership had given no indications of a willingness to enter talks.
“Someone like me could come forward and say, ‘I am a Talib and a powerful person,’ ” he said. “But I can tell you, nothing is going on.”
“Whenever I talk to the Taliban, they never accept peace and they want to keep on fighting,” he said. “They are not tired.”"
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DreamsAmelia
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Domestic Detox: Extreme Home Cleaning
Whether it's cold or whether it's hot, there'll always be snake oil, whether or not. It comes in all sizes and colors via the charmers, these days sporting esoteric degrees from dubious online universities. The duped - freelance writers writing for the greatest paper in the world, and others, well-educated, and well-off enough to pay, and pay, and pay. A brother-in-law said he thought the world was coming to an end when he read of an app for the iPhone that superimposes what a texter is typing over a live camera view, so the texter can see where he's going even while he's focused on the screen. That's a pretty good sign of the coming of the apocalypse. I nominate this article as an equally terrifying candidate. That smart people will, for lack of anything otherwise meaningful to do, throw science out the window and agree to live by anecdote alone, and to pay a fabulous price to do so. Now, one could attribute this foolishness to the fact that as a species in the vastness of eons of time we are a mere toenail's length out of the jungle. It's just too bad we are bringing on our own demise, or at least cosmic meaninglessness, just as we are getting our feet on the ground.The world we have made is not the world that made us.We do not know ourselves.The unknown is frightening.Learn. $5 and shipping is not fabulously expensive.http://www.amazon.com/Artist-Beware-Updated-Revised-Craftsperson/dp/1592285929/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1322962800&sr=1-1
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Ken Sulowe
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Does IMF Stand for Impressive Macroeconomic Flexibility?
So the IMF is holding a meeting on rethinking macroeconomic policy (I was invited but couldn’t make the timing work.) And the Fund’s chief economist has already made it clear that he’s open to some serious revision of the prevailing paradigm.
http://my.firedoglake.com/scarecrow/2011/12/03/angela-merkels-grand-euro-deal-tell-me-how-this-works/Angela Merkel’s Grand Euro Deal: Tell Me How This Works
By: Scarecrow Saturday December 3, 2011 9:59 am here and here), The Financial Times, Telegraph, etc – discuss the Euro crisis. Most focus on the proposed grand bargain being pushed by Germany’s Angela Merkel for a new, improved fiscal union that will somehow save the Euro and rescue us all from another dreadful recession.Another half dozen or so news/analysis articles — in the New York Times (
Amazingly, few of today’s articles ask whether what is being proposed makes any sense. For that, you have to reach back a few days for people like Martin Wolf, Wolfgang Münchau or Nouriel Roubini (or Krugman, et al here). Some were written before the week’s misplaced euphoria for the coordinated central bank actions, in which the Federal Reserve offered to make dollars available for Euros at a lower price, and five other central banks graciously agreed to accept the gift.
Each of these recent articles appears to buy Angela Merkel’s proposal for a more disciplined fiscal union in which every Euro nation would be bound to strict rules for balancing their respective budgets and penalized somehow if they failed to comply. Everyone would embrace this austerian, deficit hysteric’s dream of perennially balanced budgets.
In exchange, the relatively stronger economies — primarily Germany but also others — would condescend to allow the “independent” European Central Bank (ECB) to do something more to help debtor nations. Unfortunately, the “more” is unspecified, with deliberately vague hints from Mario Draghi, the new head of the ECB. To see how hollow this promise is, see comments of Germany’s central banker, a board member of the ECB.
Germany’s demands are directed at nations with high total debts — e.g., Italy, Spain, Greece. Their new governments are now composed of just elected deficit hysterics (Spain), unelected “technocrats” who are also deficit hysterics (Italy) and bankruptcy conservators (Greece) appointed by creditors (Germany and France). As a condition for not really solving their immediate debt problems, Germany would demand they comply with stringent austerity programs to slash spending, worker salaries or pensions, or increase revenues while — and this is never explained — simultaneously boosting their economies to avoid the onrushing recession.
Even the casual non-economist must be struck by how disconnected this entire package of remedies is from even a theoretically plausible set of solutions. As I wrote a few weeks ago, there are multiple, related problems that still need to be understood separately, but much of the media continue to confuse long-run remedies, some unworkable, with immediate crises that could crash the system next week or next month. Once again:
1. There is an immediate crisis — a massive investor run on banks and the sovereign debts they hold. This crisis demands immediate financial intervention from an entity with unlimited funds, not a long-run commitment to balanced budgets. There appears to be a consensus among economists and many non-participants that this requires massive, convincing intervention by the ECB — as in “we will provide as much lending (liquidity, monetary easing, whatever) as it takes, as long as it takes.” No such offer is on the table, and those in the best position to effect this change remain adamantly opposed. If this is not addressed, and quickly, all long run plans become irrelevant.
2. There is also an immediate need to avoid or mitigate an onrushing serious recession throughout Europe. That will engulf the supposedly “stronger” economies, too, and via various linkages, threaten the US economy. Greece’s tiny economy is already in depression with no way out; it’s not much better in Portugal; Italy is close to recession, Germany and France’s growth has slowed to near zero and is headed south, along with the UK, a major trading partner whose idiot government is committed to solving the lack of demand by depressing it further. Every one of these countries is pursuing austerity policies that have already slowed growth, increased unemployment, and if continued will ensure recessions. They are all strangling themselves and proposing to cure that by squeezing harder. Merkel wants to make the bleeding remedy mandatory, with penalties.
3. There is a desperate need both here and in Europe for a shared, coherent vision of how national economies work and how a federal government’s actions affect them during downturns. Here we find Angela Merkel saying things that are not much different from the loonies running Congress or for the US GOP presidential nomination. Merkel’s vision is a compact among states all committed to enforce balanced budgets. It’s the equivalent of saying that the US can get out of a recession and deep unemployment if only each US state will cut spending and government services enough to balance its own state budget. This is economic gibberish.
The US is currently failing to function effectively as a national “fiscal union,” leaving 25 million either unemployed or underemployed and its GDP functioning well below its potential. That’s a huge economic waste creating and tolerating a shocking level of human suffering. But it could be worse, and it would be worse if Angela Merkel’s remedies were applied here — or if the GOP in Congress get their way.
American’s economic plight would be far worse if the federal government did not perform a few critical functions, and it would be far better if it did more of them. Most US states already balance their respective budgets, but that’s not helping. What a balanced budget requirement makes them do in a downturn is to cut spending and/or raise taxes — measures that only make matters worse. Why is this so hard to understand?
The rational policy for the federal government is to make up for the depressed demand. At a minimum this means picking up the increased safety-net costs states would otherwise incur — Medicaid, food stamps, unemployment insurance, etc — and help the states avoid massive layoffs of public employees and cuts in public services. Boosting demand further through increased federal spending to make up for the fact the private sector is depressed and “deleveraging” from its high debt levels is the next step to get out of the hole.
The 2009 stimulus tried to do these things, and it should have done more and for longer. The extent it fell short helps define the gap in what the economy could be doing in output and employment and where we find ourselves. This is math, not ideology.
Where is this essential federal responsibility in Angela Merkel’s proposal for a more disciplined fiscal Euro union? It seems to be missing. Instead, she proposes to force all Euro nations into a economic straight jacket on the theory that austerity will both keep Europe out of recessions and get them out when they occur. But where is the plausible economic theory explaining how this is even logically or mathematically possible? How does it square with national income accounting?
As Krugman, Dean Baker, et al repeatedly remind us, Europe’s crash, like our own, did not result from excessive government spending or unsustainable deficits/debts. Except for Greece, most Euro countries had small deficits or even surpluses before the crash. It resulted more from irresponsible lending by the banksters of the US and Europe, massive bankster-driven bubbles in housing, and equally massive crashes when the bubbles burst, followed by some sovereigns bailing out their banksters. We are still waiting for the criminal banksters and their criminally irresponsible regulators to be hauled away, but there’s nothing in Merkel’s vision that includes that image.
Image: Elena Schweitzer/shutterstock.com
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/things-people-said/
Things People Said
“The rating agencies are just lying in wait to see who they can downgrade to make up for their past mistakes.”
“If you see what some of the banks are now running in their war rooms, it’s really, really scary.”
“The Minsky moment for banking has arrived.”
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/This week on FT Alphaville,
- The German bond market was all about ‘buy and hold‘.
- Redenomination risk popped up in the strangest places.
- The ECB was the Pawnbroker of Last Resort.
- We asked whether this was a Minsky moment in the eurozone?
- The UK provided liquidity support to the banks.
- And the ECB tried to keep doing the same.
- The UK chancellor rejected plan B in favour of plan A+1.
- We took a look at Bloomberg’s homework.
- European bank deleveraging continued.
- Debt and CDS remained complicated.
- Global central banks acted but it was still all about collateral.
- We imagined what ECB QE could look like.
- The Bank’s Financial Stability Report provided lots of charts.
- And debt swaps were back on the agenda.
Stale.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7500&updaterx=2011-11-30+23%3A10%3A04
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=238
In case you get bored:http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/12/links-12311-2.html
Links 12/3/11
Monsanto Corn May Be Failing to Kill Bugs, EPA Says Bloomberg (hat tip reader Valissa)
The new cyber-industrial complex spying on us Guardian (hat tip reader May S)
The Rise of the New Information Gatekeepers BusinessWeek (hat tip reader Valissa)
Euro doomed from start, says Jacques Delors Telegraph (hat tip reader Swedish Lex)
Euro Central Banks May Provide $270B via IMF Bloomberg (hat tip reader Valissa). A bit more than 1/10 of what is needed.
White House on defensive over Iran sanctions Financial Times
The US immigration system is broken Guardian (hat tip reader May S)
Romney and Gingrich, from bad to worse George Will, Washington Post (hat tip Joe Costello)
Deranged Senate Votes for Military Detention of All Terror Suspects and a Permanent Guantánamo Common Dreams (hat tip reader Doug Tempstra)
Congress endorsing military detention, a new AUMF Glenn Greenwald
U.N. Envoy: U.S. Isn’t Protecting Occupy Protesters’ Rights Huffington Post (hat tip Lambert Strether)
Max Blumenthal: How Israeli Occupation Forces, Bahraini Monarchy Guards Trained U.S. Police For Coordinated Crackdown On “Occupy” Protests eXiled
Occupy Y’all Street: Occupy Atlanta Fights Foreclosure, Fannie Mae Demands Protesters’ Emails Huffington Post
Occupy LA Raid: Los Angeles Police Reportedly Went Undercover At Encampment Prior To Raid To Gather Information Associated Press. This should not be surprising.
OCCUPY ACROSS THE U.S.: Police don’t allow cold weather supplies at Boston protest Rdan, Angry Bear
Romney’s Billionaire Threatens BBC Investigative Reporter Truthout
America’s Next TARP Model Jon Steward (hat tip reader hello)
A Secret Scandal Eliot Spitzer, Slate
Corzine compelled to testify to US Congress Financial Times
Breakingviews: Big U.S. foreclosure settlement isn’t dead yet Reuters. As I recall, Terri Schiavo had to be taken off life support.
Some Thoughts on the U.S. Jobs Report and Implications Credit Writedowns
Antidote du jour:
http://oilprice.com/Geo-Politics/International/Furious-at-Latest-U.S.-Attack-Pakistan-Shuts-Down-Resupply-Routes-to-Afghanistan-Permanently.html
"Given that roughly 100 fuel tanker trucks along with 200 other trucks loaded with NATO supplies cross into Afghanistan each day from Pakistan, Pakistan’s closure of the border has ominous long-term consequences for the logistical resupply of ISAF forces, even as Pentagon officials downplay the issue and scramble for alternative resupply routes.
Pakistan, long angry about ISAF/NATO cross border raids, has apparently reached the end of its tether. Following the 26 November NATO aerial assault on two border posts in Mohmand Agency in Pakistan’s turbulent NorthWest Frontier Province, Islamabad promptly sealed its border with Afghanistan to NATO supplies after the allied strikes killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.
The U.S. military insists a joint patrol with Afghan forces was fired upon first and only responded with return fire and calling in airstrikes on the posts, which a commander mistakenly identified as Taliban training camps, after reportedly checking that there were no Pakistani military forces nearby. Pakistan Major General Ishfaq Nadeem, director general of military operations, rebutted Washington’s assertions one by one, commenting, "The positions of the posts were already conveyed to the ISAF through map references and it was impossible that they did not know these to be our posts.""
The gloves came off. This could get very messy.
Tomorrow and the next day will come.
Europe has not been saved from itself.
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Bridget
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Freshmen Republicans Push House Toward Right
“Freshmen Republicans Push House Toward Right - http://nyti.ms/pTtV3P”This man was more hopeful than I am.
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Howie Lisnoff
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Business Day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitaly_Borker
"Google responded to a New York Times story by writing an algorithm that "detects the merchant from the Times article along with hundreds of other merchants that, in our opinion, provide an extremely poor user experience" and significantly reduces their search visibility on product searches."
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/13/business/13borker.html?scp=1&sq=vitaly%20borker&st=cse"Sentencing is scheduled for Sept. 16. Government prosecutors said that under the guidelines, Mr. Borker should spend at least five and perhaps as many as six and a half years in prison.
Mr. Borker’s lawyer, Dominic Amorosa, said he expected a fraction of that sentence — a year to 18 months." No further news at the Times.
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Casey Chapple
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Domestic Detox: Extreme Home Cleaning
Whether it's cold or whether it's hot, there'll always be snake oil, whether or not. It comes in all sizes and colors via the charmers, these days sporting esoteric degrees from dubious online universities. The duped - freelance writers writing for the greatest paper in the world, and others, well-educated, and well-off enough to pay, and pay, and pay. A brother-in-law said he thought the world was coming to an end when he read of an app for the iPhone that superimposes what a texter is typing over a live camera view, so the texter can see where he's going even while he's focused on the screen. That's a pretty good sign of the coming of the apocalypse. I nominate this article as an equally terrifying candidate. That smart people will, for lack of anything otherwise meaningful to do, throw science out the window and agree to live by anecdote alone, and to pay a fabulous price to do so. Now, one could attribute this foolishness to the fact that as a species in the vastness of eons of time we are a mere toenail's length out of the jungle. It's just too bad we are bringing on our own demise, or at least cosmic meaninglessness, just as we are getting our feet on the ground.http://www.amazon.com/Artist-Beware-Updated-Revised-Craftsperson/dp/1592285929/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1322970789&sr=8-1
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Ben Hammersley
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Taliban Leader in Peace Talks Was an Impostor
“Taliban Leader in Peace Talks Was an Impostor - http://nyti.ms/hHEi4I - A bad day in the office for that case officer. #hugebrassballs”"“It’s not him,” said a Western diplomat in Kabul intimately involved in the discussions. “And we gave him a lot of money.”"
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Kathleen
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Hands Off Our Houses
“Hands Off Our Houses - http://nyti.ms/lGyNXJ”This group has misjudged the market. The rural near poor are the target. One step up from trailer trash. Towns people who want to exit the rental market.Were you thinking of this:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/03/us/at-84-square-feet-home-takes-tiny-house-movement-tinier.html?src=me&ref=generalI can do better, bigger and cheaper.I intend to do it for a studio. I can do a house as well.
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Neil McIntosh
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Taliban Leader in Peace Talks Was an Impostor
“Taliban Leader in Peace Talks Was an Impostor - http://nyti.ms/hHEi4I - A bad day in the office for that case officer. #hugebrassballs”“It’s not him,” said a Western diplomat in Kabul intimately involved in the discussions. “And we gave him a lot of money.”"Sayed Amir Muhammad Agha, a onetime Taliban commander who says he has left the Taliban but who acted as a go-between with the movement in the past, said in an interview that he did not know the tale of the impostor.
But he said the Taliban leadership had given no indications of a willingness to enter talks.
“Someone like me could come forward and say, ‘I am a Talib and a powerful person,’ ” he said. “But I can tell you, nothing is going on.”
“Whenever I talk to the Taliban, they never accept peace and they want to keep on fighting,” he said. “They are not tired.”"
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